Sunday, January 14, 2007

Jay "Jaybird" Dobyns rides again

When Jay played for the UA in the '80s, his long blonde hair flowed from under his helmet. As an ATF agent, he shaved his head, tattooed and pierced his body, and became one scary dude. I had the opportunity to meet Jay a few months ago. I remembered his days as a wide out for the UA - and before that at Sahuaro HS here in town - and had kept up on his adventures working undercover for the ATF. He was pleased that I knew who he was (not from any earlier bust, mind you) and I spent a few minutes chatting with him. What an inspiration he is, and deserves all the respect and admiration he's garnished. I'm glad guys like Jay are on our side.

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Anonymous said...

If I was Jay Dobyns, I wouldn't really be too too concerned about what his government is doing to him. I'd be more worried about a wee bit more serious matter. But hey he does have a chance, his buddy miguel is an ordained minister and is willing to talk to the Angels?????? That should work? NOT

Anonymous said...

Jay is nothing but a rat bastard who crossed the Hells Angels. Sometimes people should keep out of other peoples business. The point is Jay is a narc, and always will be seen as one. I could never trust the guy no matter what he says.

Anonymous said...

THE HELLS ANGELS WILL NEVER GO AWAY UNTIL THE EARTH COMES TO AN END. TO TRY TO GET THEM OR MAKE THEM GO AWAY IS AS FOOLISH AS TRYING TO CONTROL SATAN! IT CANT BE DONE.THEY ARE THE ARMY OF THE ANTICHRIST IN THE MAKING! THEY ARE FAR BEYOND BEING JUST BIKERS FOLKS.

Anonymous said...

jay you buttfucker you did all that dangerous undercover work and what did you get for it? nothin but fucked over by your own yuppie ATF narcs! goes to show you, you cant trust cops! you should have stayed and been a real HAMC member not a snitch. atleast the ANGELS help there own and stick by there own. unlike the straight yuppie ATF.thats what you get for hanging out and working for cops like that. your stupid man you bald meatrocket!

Anonymous said...

I saw jay on CNN with Anderson Cooper sniveling with his poor woe is me story. i got some advise... SHUT THE FUCK UP TAKE YOUR LOSSES LIKE A MAN AND GO HOME AND FUCK YOUR SLUTTY WIFE RAW! your lucky you got a wife after making her move from her sunny arizona home cause of all your cop shit. and it was worth nothin. where was all the drugs that the club was suppose? to make there millions on? NOWHERE TO BE SEEN.

Anonymous said...

JAY SHOULD GET TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER LOSER COP. TONY TAIT! HAVE BABYS AND SOLVE THE WORLDS PROBLEMS. THE WORLD IS THE WAY IT IS! AND NO COPS ARE EVER GONNA SOLVE THE WORLDS PROBLEMS. QUIT FOOLING YOURSELVES COPPERS! IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE ARE WHAT WE ARE.

Anonymous said...

I noticed jay kept his hells angels patch after the big bust. if he hates the club so much how come he kept the patch? why not give it back to the guys in the club? cause inside he really knows its cool to be an hamc member. he likes to hang on to it to say to himself in the mirror..{I WAS ONCE A REAL MAN} then i went back to being a rat coward pig narc failer!

Anonymous said...

The reason the cops will never get rid of the Angels is cause its a lifestyle a way of life 24/7. to cops its just a job a paycheck make your pay and go home and beat your wife. the cops bust a few angels they go to the joint they then get new members. its never ever going to go away. THE HELLS ANGELS ARE FOR EVER TILL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!

Anonymous said...

Jaybird you and the ATF went threw all that shit and danger and gained nothing. doesnt that make you feel stupid and used? your a LOSER and allways will be a LOSER! WHAT A BIG WASTE OF TIME IT WAS HUH?

Anonymous said...

jay is alive and well with his wife still living in sunny arizona. im suprised the club doesnt see him around there. he still rides his bike and is out and about. maybe the hells angels are to busy partying to see him. i thought they allways tcb took care of business?

Anonymous said...

most but not all hells angels are meth dealers. crank. hells angel from oakland calif kenny owen was the biggest and best meth cooker in the world in the 1970s and 80s.

The eyes of God are watching said...

Jay- you have been a colossal jerk since you were 12...amoral, egotistical and a user of other people. Obviously, as a "father" you were eager/willing to sacrifice your family's lives, just so you could be a "pretend" Hell's
Angel(LIKE a 12 yr. old)...
There are real heroes in America Jay- you are NOT one of them-
Instead of faking killings with"play" blood, Jay- trying "faking" having some REAL Christian morals-and drop the "little boy voice" and high school slang
You are an adrenaline "junkie" and Yes, God is watching
This article just proves that-you
continue, as you always have done ...to exist as a despicable FAKE

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of pussies and non educated writers. Just like a pussy to talk trash about guys that lay their lives on the line so that worthless sacks of shits like most of you can live a free and safe life. What a great country we live in when turds like you can messages about a guy that tried to make a difference by putting a bunch of retards in jail.

the eyes of god are watching said...

well- looks like just about everyone
sees through Jay...wonder when "they" will actually find him?

Jay, Did you join the ATF
just to get public
attention?
Someone like you could Never really BE a good guy-Not for a minute

now-you've got all the negative attention you want-
Finally...you are getting what you deserve
and yes, God does See everything- and Know everything-
There is so much more to tell about your lack of character than what you told on tv-

R. Lampero said...

Wow, All you guys posting under "anonymous" are pretty tough cats........some intelligent comments, I feel smarter having read them.

r. lampero said...

Hey God is watching.......Did Jay beat you up in high school? You are another winner, keep on postin' you fucking pussy.

j. flores said...

as a peace officer i admire dobyns' courage to do the job he does and for all you "anonymous" writers that just shows your character.

Anonymous said...

Weird really. i can understand both the HAMC side of the arguement as regard Jay dobyns disrespecting the patch and being a snitch but can also see that the cops are trying to do a pretty crap job with little thanks. The Hells Angels are an outlaw motorcycle gang and they frighten the fucking crap outa a pussie like me.Man those guys mean business.I'd hate to be in Jay Dobyns shoes,scary shit.

Anonymous said...

I know from experience that the biggest scariest corrupt gang in the world dont ride motorcycles they drive cop cars and get away with 10 times more crime then any motorcycle club ever has ,or ever will it's sickening to me that this s#@t goes on everyday in every city in the U.S. Leave the H A alone you (cops)always come out looking foolish and empty handed. ha ha ha god has a sense of humor dont he....

Anonymous said...

the reason most of us post anonymous is so we dont have to register with google . And to j flores it's your character that is questionable and the fact that you are a part of the same system that turn it's back on the guy's who actually do any real work for your corrupt organization says a lot about your intelligence. Have another donut and go bust a peaceful pot head for "looking guilty "

Anonymous said...

having read "angels of Death" I have just this to say.... HA are forever strong no matter what, no matter where, no matter who. no body needs to touch Jay-bird, his own conscience, guilt and double, double cross is one nasty paranoid monkey on his back that burns in his gut.
what kind of person can call a man a brother all the while plotting to take him down, a man with strong conviction of duty or a man with no self respect that hides behind a badge.... oh that's right.. they left you hanging too!

Anonymous said...

Dobyns is the reason Operation Black Biscuit was such a sham!! His credibilty was such a joke the Feds refused to fully disclose the actions of the agents even after the judge stated that failing to do so would result in a dismissal of the case. Millions upon millions of tax payer money wasted so that some glory hound who missed the lime light could play dress up.He violated more laws than those being investigate. A complete peice of trash. Absolutely pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Cops lie under oath, will beat the sh-t out of you and kill you if you put up the slightest amount of resistance. Except when they catch someone mugging an old lady they are for the most part useless. They have to justify there existence by arresting pot smokers and hookers what a waste of money. If you are successful in being an illegal gambler, pot or drug dealer they want to hit you with racketeering and give you life. Undercover cops are sneaks but when they cross the line and join a organization and give a oath of loyality they cross a line and commit the ultimate betrayal and treason. HAMC are no choir boys and perhaps they are involved in the black market. The government sells the most deadly drug tobacco/nicotine which kills more people than all illegal drugs. So I think a fair punishment would be a fine for the guys who were busted or no more thirty days in jail if they don't pay the fine. The system hates any group making big money and who is not weak. Most people today will rat on their own mother before they even put the handcuffs on. I do respect the HAMC because they are loyal to each other and are not rats. Cops used to be loyal to one another but today they rat each other out all the time. When a cop gets in trouble and gets busted and knows he's going to prison for a long time he will "eat his gun" and commit suicide. This ATF agent was abandoned by his own LE agency after they used him up and now he is crying shame on him!

Anonymous said...

Read the book...loved it.

Hate dumb bullies, hate pack mentality of men who need a tough guy image and to intimidate to feel any self esteem. Real men and real humans see beyond self serving insecurity crap and try to do some good in the world.

Dobyns may have got a buzz out of what he did...but what balls hey...he tried to do a good thing.

Much respect.

Anonymous said...

Jay Dobyns is a courageous law enfourcement officer and should be repected. ANY of you doubting him should try to peal your sorry sack off your seat and jump into him shoes. Anyone facing the situations he faced would react the same way...provided you had the balls to be there to begin with. Any of you 'tough guys' who criticize him should try undercover work where you may or may not drive home at night provided you even qualify for such a job. Rethink your situation,m then stare death in the face and accept it...like he did many times.

Anonymous said...

You're all a bunch of inbred retards...you have a computer. USE MICROSOFT WORD AND CHECK YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE YOU POST THEM...technology is wonderful.

Anonymous said...

The HAMC in Arizona violated many of their own internal security and membership policies, procedures, and safeguards. The Black Biscuit / "Solo Angels" gambit was just that - a long, long pass that went the length of the playing field.

There were and are many aspects to this entire affair. If nothing else Special Agent Dobyns and his "crew" proved Sonny Barger wrong. The HAMC could be successfully infiltrated by law enforcement and in this case were.

If Dobyns indeed kept his HA "colors" its no different from a warrior taking and keeping a battlefield trophy after the fight. The 1% Percenter crowd does the same every time they "take" the "colors" of a rival club and hang them upside down in their clubhouses.

"Roma Victa"

Anonymous said...

knowone likes a rat...hey jay look back at your life and ask yourself who would have backed you up till death? the cops or the ha's..I think its pretty obvious. by the way turn the colors in asshole they dont belong to you. CLUB PROPERTY

seeker said...

You clowns all wish you had the balls that Dobyns has. You dont have any idea what its like to go to work not knowing what the hell is going to happen to you. You all live in your safe little worlds, yet you criticize this dude who lays it on the line.........youre all pussies

Anonymous said...

hey jay-dob if your reading this its luke. i just came accross this when i saw you on tv. well we love you coach. see you round

Anonymous said...

what ever you think of Jay, it does not mater. Hell's Angels took the bait, were arrested and convictions certified. Hell Angels lost, LE won. Whether you are an Outlaw or LE you have to agree, he did win.

Sonny Barger said...

Jay Dobyns NEVER became a member of the Hells Angels. He was never patched in.

Anonymous said...

Jay Dobyns succeeded He infiltrated the gang, gathered the evidence (including some shit on himself it seems), and made it through nearly 2 years without being discovered, killed or both. So he had to use possibly unorthodox methods to get in deep, fucking obviously! I doubt Mahoney from Police Academy would have been plausible enough.
Not Dobyns fault beauracracy got in the way of desired results or hefty sentences. I say J.D. did his job and he did it to an exceptional standard. Possibly should have double-checked the small print for the post assignment protection arrangements though. Shame on you ATF.

Anonymous said...

Dobyns, no matter the size of his ego, did a risky job and in the end got screwed over by the ATF. What's worse is that both the Hells Angels and members of law enforcement allowed Cynthia Garcia's killers to walk around free for years. It's easy to be brave on the internet and to beat up and murder women.

Anonymous said...

Jay you rock brother!! You went and done what most of us would be too scared to even think about, got the evidence and got these scumbags put away, if only law enforcement agenices had more of you guys with a bit of "pump" to put these scum away for good it would be a better world.
For all those knockers grow some balls, you only wish you could have that sort of nouse, and to all that belong to an OMCG, you all just hide behind a patch because you can't find your own identity. Bikers suck, you stand for nothing good in this world and for that you will never be respected.

Anonymous said...

LOL You want to be Pigs, How would you like it if someone was in your busines, you all never have broke the law or did something you werent suppose to, yeah you just didnt get caught, you fcking pussies, shut your mouth and dont protect fcking rats, let them die in the fire!One more thing Dont disrespect the HA, They live for themselves, they dont bother you, dont fck with them.Fcking ripping shots at them when you would piss your pants if you seen them, They cant help it if they dont take any sht.So get off there back, AND FCK YOU DOBYNS,Go cry to your buddies, better yet why dont you just go to Sonny's house and say hi!Be a Man Bitch!

Anonymous said...

This comment sums it up for me:

"Hate dumb bullies, hate pack mentality of men who need a tough guy image and to intimidate to feel any self esteem."

What, you mean like cops?

From the little I've learned about Jay Dobyns in the last ten minutes, he is nothing more than a selfish, egotistical arsehole, who put his family in grave danger for very little reward. His family deserve better.

A lot of posters have called anyone criticising the man pussies, who live in 'safe little worlds'. Nothing he, and very little that law enforcement in general do, makes it a safe little world for anyone. These people have their own motives for joining up, and cause far more problems than they solve. If he had taken such risks trying to achieve something worthwhile I'd have nothing but respect for him. As it is, he's just another cunt cop trying to make up for his own inadequacy.

Anonymous said...

all you HA can wipe you tears and get along with you daily lives of beheading women, beating and killing women. But the truth be told, JD infiltrated you, and he won. Proove he didnt get patched in Barger you fuck. He has the patch. Go beat up some more women.

Anonymous said...

cops are some of the worse criminals alive today, next to lawyers

Anonymous said...

Give the patch back Jay. It is club property and you have no business keeping it.

Anonymous said...

HA...a half assed name for wannabe bad asses. The cute little slang names and phrases they use, their neat little vests, and unique facial hair arrangements. Oh and not to mention the clubhouses, meetings and initiations. It reminds of kids in high school with pleather football coats on with their name on it, rippin around in a camaro smoking during school hours selling smokes out of their treehouse in the back forty. So cool. Sort of like a bad tatoo, I'm wondering if these half witted entrepreneurs wake up one day when they're old and grey and go "WTF was I thinkin? This is fucking stupid. What a waste of time." And last but not least, give me a goddamn break...Harley's? That's the best you could come up with for your bad ass rides? Hope you guys buy in bulk and at least get a discount.
Well, that's my two cents, I don't give a damn what people think of it. But hopefully it makes some HA rethink theeir postion in life.
P.S. I'm willing to bet someone's gotten freaky with that neck pussy of Barger's. There. That should stir the pot.

Anonymous said...

Don't like the Cop's? Next time someone breaks into your house and rapes your daughter, try calling a crackhead you PUKES. Jay Dobyns is the man.

Anonymous said...

It makes me laugh that people would go so far as to defend the HA or any other OMCG, they are nothing but a bunch of gutter rats that DO NOT contribute to society in a positive way in any shape of form. They advocate violence, peddle drugs, murder people, treat their women and everyone else (even their so called Brothers) like shit...oh gee where do I sign up?? FFS are you kidding me?..they are a bunch of turds that hide behind a patch and their shitbox Harleys. Good on Jay for at least having a crack at it he may not have got everything right but anyone that goes to work each day knowing it could be their last earns respect in my book....To say he was a traitor making out he was a brother and turning on them...boo fu8king hoo.. goes with the job that was the whole objective of the ATF putting Jay in there. If the HA are so friggen smart like some of you suggest well....the dumb barstards got played like a fiddle the whole way and never even twigged what the hell was going on..ha ha. It's all too easy for you cop bashers to sit behind a desk whinging and whining about cops and what they should and shouldnt do. Oh well I guess the next time your getting raped, bashed or robbed or whatever else you won't be ringing them huh?
Deadset, what a bunch of braindeads.

Anonymous said...

Bikers are Free, and that makes us Hated. You 'Norms' are lying to yourself, and when you finally crack, and you will, the first ones you hurt are the ones closest too you. We just ride, and that kills you.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and the first one I call for help, and I have, is the local HAMC, not the pigs. At least they take care of the community, not leach off of it.

Anonymous said...

As a LEO and a guy who was a biker way before I ever became a LEO. I can say this much. The HA's keep to themselves and are very respectful of other people (including) law enforcement. However, just like anyone else, they don't like people medeling in their business. Jay may have been doing his job BUT I think for all the wrong reasons. But in this case, I may stand alone in LEO community. Because I have a great amount of respect for the HA's not for the illegal activities that some individuals that happen to be HA's may do. But for a strong brotherhood that supports each other whether right or wrong and don't turn on each other like a bunch of rats. As a LEO I can't wait to retire and shed this skin that is the most hipocritical bunch in the world. As a LEO you go out and try to do the job you got hired to do. When you make a mistake whether true or not they all turn their backs on you cause they don't want their positions or paychecks affected. My only regret is that I did not become an electrician or something so then maybe I could have joined a brotherhood of real fucking men.

Anonymous said...

All you HA have no respect for what has been given to you by the life of someone that has given their own!

I could go on and on, but we have laws for a reason!

You want to have none, then go somewhere else!

Anonymous said...

Oh, I'm a LEO as well in the Great State of Arizona, so for anyone that has this quote,

"My only regret is that I did not become an electrician or something so then maybe I could have joined a brotherhood of real fucking men."

I guess you got into the job for all the WRONG reasons and your punk ass should retire now!

NO EXCUSES!

I would back that guy Dobyns anyday!

Anonymous said...

I am a LEO and to me this guy Dobyns is a freaking hero. The reason the HA's are soooooo MAD is because of the great job he did. He penetrated what they said was inpenatrable. I only hope next time we take down more of them. We ARE the GOOD guys and good always prevails over evil. And unlike this other LEO who does not like cops and rather be an electrician. I say to you too f*%king bad. Quit!!

Jase Murf said...

To all the Big Tough People criticing the work Jay Dobyns did (loud mouths ) why remains anonymous ? Sounds like you lot are just another group of shit talking, trash speaking losers who have probably never accomplished anything in your wasted lives. Stop sucking the air out of the world and crawl back to the sofa and bludge some more.

Anonymous said...

All Outlaw MC gang members are pussies and losers without their gang.

Anonymous said...

I can't respect a egotistical rat that wines and cries and sues his employer. He knew the risks when he entered the project, but because of what is obviously a huge ego, and an insatiable desire to fulfill an adolescent adrenaline rush he proceeded with both guns blazin. Now that things have gone bad he is looking for the ATF to bail him out, and pay him government tax dollars. by the way, please don't buy the book, it only supplements this sleazeballs income.

Anonymous said...

I CAN'T BELIEVE ALL THE STUPID PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO THINK THE HA'S ARE A GOOD ORGANIZATION. THEY DO NOTHING PRODUCTIVE TO HELP OUT SOCIETY FOR THE BETTER. RUNNING GUNS, RAPING, DRINKING, AND DRUGGING IS NOT THE LIFE MOST PEOPLE WANT OR WANT TO BE AROUND.

THE 81 ARE A BUNCH OF DUMB DROP-OUTS WHO HAVE NOTHING IN LIFE BUT OTHER DUMB DROP-OUT, IGNORANT, SO CALLED BROTHERS. THEY WILL KILL, STEAL, AND DEAL, BUT THEY DON'T DO THINGS ON THEIR OWN. THEY ARE ALWAYS WITH OTHERS, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE PUSSIES. THEY STAY IN LARGE PACKS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOTHING BUT COWARDS.

JAY SUCCESSFULLY INFILTRATED THE HA AND EVERYTHING HE DID WAS LEGIT. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO INFILTRATE A PARANOID GANG LIKE THE HA WITHOUT ACTING LIKE THEM. JAY IS NOT A COWARD. HE WAS VERY DEDICATED TO OPERATION BLACK BISCUIT. HIS ENTHUSIASM, BAD ASS ATTITUDE, AND DETERMINATION ARE WHAT ALLOWED HIM TO STAY IN CHARACTER AND BECOME A TRUSTED MEMBER FOR THE HA. UNFORTUNATELY, HIS FAMILY SUFFERED THE CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE OF HIS CAREER CHOICE BUT THEY KNEW WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT SINCE HE HAD BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY YEARS.

FYI: THE HA ARE NOT AS FREE AS THEY LIKE THE PUBLIC TO THINK THEY ARE. THEY HAVE CONFORMED TO THEIR OWN LIFESTYLE. THEY MUST WEAR CERTAIN CLOTHING, THEY MUST FOLLOW THE RULES THEY HAVE WRITTEN, THEY HAVE CLUB MEETINGS, THEY HAVE THEIR LOGOS COPYRIGHTED, THEY SELL MERCHANDISE AT RALLIES, AND THEY EVEN MINGLE WITH RIVAL GANGS AT SOME OF THESE RALLIES. THE HA HAS SPLIT FROM SOCIETY FOR NO REASONS OTHER THAN TO BE LAZY FUCKS WHO DON'T WANT TO WORK LEGIT. THEY ARE THE MOST IGNORANT, INCONSIDERATE, HYPOCRITES WHO DO NOTHING BUT BADMOUTH OTHERS AND BE INTIMIDATING. THEY WILL KILL THEIR OWN FOR ANY REASON THEY SEE FIT. WHAT KIND OF FAMILY IS THAT?

TOO BAD JAY DIDN'T GET AS MUCH EVIDENCE THAT HE WANTED TO BECAUSE I WOULD'VE LIKE TO HEAR THAT MORE HA'S WERE PUT AWAY FOR GOOD. LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE. THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES SO THEY NEED TO HANG WITH OTHER INSECURE JERK OFFS THAT ALSO HATE THEMSELVES.

GO JAY!! YOU ARE AWESOME!! I HOPE LIFE GETS EASIER FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP MOVING AND HIDING TO KEEP THESE LOSERS AWAY FROM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

JAY'S DEDICATION WAS WHAT MADE THIS OPERATION A SUCCESS....AND THE BOOK WAS AWESOME...I COULD'T PUT IT DOWN.

BY THE WAY...ARE ANY OF YOU LOSERS WHO POSTED POSITIVE RESPONSES FOR THE HA EVEN ABLE TO READ A BOOK THAT DOESN'T CONTAIN PICTURES ALONG WITH WORDS??? BY THE RESPONSES POSTED, I'D SAY NO.

FUCK OFF HA!!! FUCK OFF ATF!!!! GO JAY!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Just read the book and did 45 mins checking out the background.
the guy certainly has bollox or he's stupidly vain, why did the law pay so much attention and funding to scamming the HA instead of investigating the mafia, bent coppers and religeous nutters?
They do far more damage to society surely?
Face it, the only way one would possibly get fu*.*ed up by an angel, would be to do something disrespectful (that one wouldn't do to any one else either)to him, or his woman, child etc,etc. Or to intefere in his life unreasonably.
To be fair, I have lived in close proximty to a HA club house, they NEVER caused any trouble in the neighbourhood and have been known to sort out badly unruly parties at property owners request. Wheras the "old bill", that's another story.
The Ha may or may not sell drugs, to my knowledge they do not, certainly not at a street level, one might be able to illicit drugs from someone who pertains to be a HA member if one probes hard enough, but to be honest the same can be said to be true of any community that I've come across. Unless it was a catholic monastary or similar, but then they've got their own hail marys to say haven't they!
Deal with the crooked politicians, the big crooks that live in our communities that don't wear 'cuts' or 'colours', (they pretend to be like us, and in fact doing us all a favour). Deal with the nasty shitty criminals that burgle house, attack people for no particular reason and work scams against vunerable people.

I'll rant no more, just get a grip some of you.

Anonymous said...

AFFA !!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

way to go jay

trapper634 said...

JUST SHOWS YOU THE HYPICRITS IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. WHO GOT PAID OFF AND MADE THE BIG DECISION NOT TO PROSECUTE.

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Anonymous said...

When reading these comments, please be aware that the overwhelming majority of the 'public' have absolutely no understanding of the 1% biker lifestyle, HA or otherwise.
Our principles, traditions & laws have been developed over several decades & are based on a strong sense of honour & loyalty.
Like most large groups of people, some are law abiding some are not, this makes no difference, a Brother is always a Brother. As in any close family, members are not rejected if they fall foul of the law, they are helped & supported.
In my experience as a long standing European Patcholder (19 years), the majority of the public are respectful of 1% clubs and have a genuine interest & admiration, whereas most of the animosity is based on irrational fear, ignorance & jealousy. In short, don't criticise what you don't understand!

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